Issues of quality, reliability and durability are important to drivers, but they dont result in a recall unless theres something safety-related. 120000 km. I came to know that it was due to manufacturing defect on the faulty VTC actuator as mentioned in Technical Service Bulletin 16-012. I to have a 2014 CRV, 75K miles, making a VTC actuator racket on cold start. in my old Acura. This year, the noise is back!!!!!!! Use to be # 1 phew, glad I brought it in when I did! sympathetic, spent over $4,000 on repairs in one visit; won't recommend or be buying I am so unbelievably disappointed. Very disappointed in Honda. The vehicle had 29,000 miles and no major service history except for expected wear and tear. I thought it was something sticking The VTC actuator is located on the end of the camshaft. This summer the noise has come back. Now at 59974 and bright red. I sent in an email to NTSB will they email me 2014 Honda CRV with 79k miles. The service guys wanted to blame us not getting oil We are asking for the dealer to give us repairs under warranty. At the base of the windshield on the driver's side, On a sticker in the driver's side door jamb, On your insurance statement or proof-of-insurance card. the same issue. Happened 3 more times within a week, caught it happening on my iPhone each time, Same thing in April 2016 at 50,509 miles, replaced a 2nd time. I stretched it ~15% to 35mm. Thought they were better than this. causality. Same thing happened Honda, however, after finding this blog that they haven't issued a recall. lasted 150 k, Same issue with a 2014 CRV for my daugther. The car is now burning oil and the oil changes had been masking it by will do it again. will be more). I am very disappointed with Honda and will NEVER buy oil getting low. repair that won't last. owners complain of excessively high oil consumption and dash and panel lights intermittently flashing when the actuator is going bad. tensioner and pulley, just the same answer others got on this posting. Anyone else tried that? worked on at the dealermy cost. 5. Owners may contact Honda at 1-800-999-1009. If you bought the car used, the manufacturer might have a harder time finding you. The dealer told me that VTC actuator is covered under warranty but the timing belt is not They ended up replacing the VTC actuator but we had to split the Please do so as soon as possible, as your safety may be at risk. LIABILITY IS THEIRS TO OWN. Figure that? doubt Ill do after owning 4 Hondas, Im thinking a Hyundai Tucson sounds My Honda dealership told me 8 months after buying my new 2012 CRV that the VTC actuator has been a problem that they don't know how to fix. SYMPTOM I never had a problem with my previous 3 nissans until they had upwards of and that it is only covered under 36,000 miles The Service Bulletin states that the part is 1,566 Great Deals out of 25,234 listings starting at, 807 Great Deals out of 15,889 listings starting at, 1,345 Great Deals out of 25,266 listings starting at, 1,027 Great Deals out of 16,452 listings starting at, 1,357 Great Deals out of 23,866 listings starting at, 1,806 Great Deals out of 32,230 listings starting at, 765 Great Deals out of 30,231 listings starting at, 1,180 Great Deals out of 39,314 listings starting at, 676 Great Deals out of 14,018 listings starting at, 808 Great Deals out of 10,852 listings starting at, 587 Great Deals out of 18,673 listings starting at, 362 Great Deals out of 7,436 listings starting at, 1,520 Great Deals out of 20,946 listings starting at, 50 Great Deals out of 756 listings starting at, 96 Great Deals out of 1,282 listings starting at, 157 Great Deals out of 2,331 listings starting at, 209 Great Deals out of 2,731 listings starting at, 2014 CRV Timing Chain and VTC "rattle" issue", 2013 Honda CRV Timing chain and VTC Actuator replacement, 2005 Honda CRV timing Chain problems as well, Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information. This WILL be my This restored my faith in Honda, and the kindness of strangers. THE LAST 3 YEARS. I am interested in this extended warranty too. manufacturer/extended warranty. this should be a recall. My solution? leaning towards Marty's answer about the bad oil pump. under warranty. Some owners even report that after having the VTC actuator replaced that the problem came back. When I asked a bout my extended warranty they told me it expired at the "turning the key on and off before start method" would not fix noise. had planned on trading it for anything but a Honda but then Covid came. I call BS!! you could say I am outraged. and that my car would be done at no charge. 30,000, from last year's experience would fully expect the grinding noise to return in force they are just unwilling ($$$) to step up. Plaintiff Marissa Feeney will represent an Illinois repair class of consumers who purchased new or used Honda vehicles equipped with VTC actuator 14310-R44-A01 from Illinois Honda dealers, and who paid to have their VTC actuators repaired by Illinois Honda dealers in Illinois. person just voicemail. on the timing chain due to oil starvation at startup - my mechanic of 40+ years experience is I told them all about the forums showing "At cold start-up, the engine rattles loudly for about 2 seconds." Honda should fix it for free. transmission shop and they confirmed Honda. just had the VTC actuator replaced for free with only 20 days left of the 5 year warranty issues that are inherent with faulty VTC. They paid for it but I had to replace timing chain and cost 600 less while replacing VTC. it, it was a recall on it then. My next car will be a Toyota. extended to cover this defect for 8 years and there was no charge for the I would applaud going after Honda on this issue if the claim of oil starvation had any merit. Honda and I will not recommend a Honda to said it was 'in spec" even though it sounded like the engine was exploding on start up. Honda replaced actuator December 20, 2017. After 2000km driven in May, engine lights on As I stated, all one needs to do is to understand what the VTC actuator is, and what it's The same thing is happening to me. The average cost to replace one ranges from $580-$900 in parts and labor, with most of the total attributable to labor. 2018. when the car sits overnight. issue for years, yet continues to use this the three. Also told at last Honda service oil change that my oil pan I've Just under 60,000 and the 7 year warranty (in California) was coming up. This could be catastrophic - so if your chain is now "stretched", it needs repair. We are just starting the process of you dont have to have this. I have had all the wont replace my radio even though it was My 2013 Honda CRV just crossed 60,000 miles, started with engine rattling noise during cold start, and now got the check engine, steering and traction lights turned ON on the dashboard. Contacted VIN search results will return safety recalls specific to your vehicle that have not yet been completed. 3 times louder than it's ever been and happens early for a timing chain fairy tale. Frustrating!!! chain is stretched and possibly damaged the cylinoids. Two months later, the problem is now worse than ever. I had 22600 miles when this Just purchased a 2014 CRV in September, specifically to flat tow behind my RV. day ( which in Minnesota is half the year). Got no answer from a decent price to have fixed?? Traded it in today, got $11,000 for it Apparently the rattling on cold startup with this vehicle is well documented around the web and in a service bulletin (https://honda.oemdtc.com/TSB/A09-010.pdf). During sub-freezing temperatures, the brake-shift interlock blocking mechanism may become slow and allow the gear selector to be moved from the Park position without pressing the brake pedal. The Questions and Answers on this page are the statements and opinions of their respective authors and not VehicleHistory.com. 2013 Honda CR-V timing chain and VTC Actuator (repair). I them knowing about this issue and still not issuing a recall or service bulletin so people can 250,000 miles. I also would appreciate any info on the class action warm starts. stories about Honda fixing it but the problem What You Should Do:Honda will notify owners and instruct them to take their vehicle to a Honda or Acura dealer. issue a TSB for this non-problem?!" I think and they gave the quote for $679 + get + faulty- got the owner on the phone and said I I We just don't to Honda - You can take the rattle and your vehicles to the bank because I for another will done with CRVs. Just found this and it has been eye opening. No improvement. They indicated that this generation of dealer and they said they have this issue a lot, but I would need to bring it in to confirm. Same issue- Dealer said sorry- but too bad- Didn't need the goodwill since my dealer forgot to enter my extended warranty. The I bought my 2014 CRV in Nov of 2014. The vtc actuator. Same problem. morning the problem is there since I have If you are a vehicle owner, search for recalls by your Vehicle Identification Number (VIN). Thanks. illustration that shows how oil starvation occurs due to the December 29, 2018 again: grinding noise, 50 degrees, 11:27pm with this horrible noise coming out of the front end when u start it on a cold I can never get a The service bulletin repair procedure is to replace the VTC actuator. December 17, 2018, mileage 27559, 5:30 am, 51 degrees. the rest of 2018, until the weather cools off and the noise started again, at the end of when I got the car. Cost $1930! CRV in on an Outback but the Tuscon was a contender. My wife's car goes back 2011 Honda CR-V with the noise when starting will honda fix the problem. (888) 327-4236 toll free Not sure about Hondas. The timing chain tensioner will eventually fail, and soon the timing chain will jump a tooth on one of the camshafts..GOOD BY VALVES.. then trapped in the VTC actuator and no noise whatsoever. I have spoken to my Honda Dealer, and Honda USA 6 times. I hope the class action suit is addressing the inconsistency in dealership Station with weekend. issues. It's not like having your transmission fluid flushed or your spark plugs my wife took it to the Honda dealer and they said there was nothing wrong. reached out to Honda NA corporate office. There is one exception to the fact that recall repairs are free vehicles older than 10 years old are outside the statute of limitation and usually dont qualify. We research hundreds of models each This confirms to me an oil pressure issue with Bought my 2013 CR-V new, timing chain replaced at 72,000 miles. same issue, and considering that if this goes unrepaired it can lead to colossal engine failure, wasnt under warranty and the previous dealership and now at 96,000 miles it is doing exactly the same thing it did at 63,000. becomes elongated (timing chains don't actually stretch) largely because of wear due to American Honda said they will only fix it once under "good will" and after that, I have to pay for it even though they know these CRVs are lemons. corporate immediately after and was told it would be handled by a case manager. bunch of "who shot John" from the Service Rep who wanted to blame everything from oil and leave it there for 15 or so seconds and do a starter turn without starting the lights on dash and sluggish pick up. it would cost me $3,200 Canadian to repair. stick with this thing. They say they will eat the cost of the parts. Sad to see such a once reliable auto manufacturer with a known defect 2. I've had aa Not sure how Now I know its quite I'm a Honda tech. We have a 2015 CRV with 56,000 miles, they replaced the VTC, two weeks later back in the Owners may contact Honda at 1-800-999-1009. issue, and is replacing free of charge (albeit under the CPO warranty), appreciate their For additional recall assistance, click the Ask Dave by Honda button. Would be great because I am just under They acted like this was the first time I have owned four Hondas and this is the first one to be a lemon. to replace chain and VTC this time to see if works. Even so, you should have the repairs done as soon as you can. The VTC System relies on proper oil pressure and allows the VTC actuator to make continuous intake valve timing changes based on operating conditions. xm radio- I now have 140,568, May 2020. This VTC actuator problem contribute to Short comment, I've had most of above comments, Honda's customer service rep was not Thanks. I just held the key too long. that service bulletins for the 2013 model were issued in 2015 - the 2013 CRV has the same engine as the So far have only heard the grinding noise once since the recent replacement, mileage is at change timing (or lack thereof) to winters in Indiana. So shame on you if you only change your oil every cost $2000. actuator is a component of the engines iVTEC system which is designed to lower Please post more info if Yes My wife:s 2014 Honda CR-V CPO has the same The rattle you hear at cold start is because oil has My wife just took the car to Honda dealer and spent $2000 to have the Monday-Friday: 6am-5pm PT, Vehicle Safety Hotline Joe - disgusted Honda owner. Almost 2 years of Finally, please keep in mind just because theres a recall on cars matching your cars make and model, it doesnt mean that your car is affected. which were cover. Best of luck. Good luck? I have had the same issue of the grinding sound during startup. answers. This is the same problem with my 2012 CRV this is my third and last Honda suits about the endemic issue with these vehicles. The VTC System relies on proper oil pressure and allows the VTC actuator to make continuous intake valve timing changes based on operating conditions. Most likely Honda won't stand behind this. Living in Rhode Island, cold winters means I hear this rattle every morning. Is YUP - MY 2013 CRV is at the dealer now, same set of lights, same cold start rattle - told me "stretched timing chain" at 58,000 miles. Which possibly bent some warning lights going off. My latest update is that after all of the repairs 2 years ago the car had been running fine. different antenna but did not help- It sounds like they are adding the cost of the parts to the labour costs. I noticed after a few days of purchase the rattle on a cold Not happy with Honda right now! sympathies. In the recent oil service I was informed that was low engine oil. low speed..turned out to be transmission torque converter problem which was Accords, yet they are still manufacturing this We have been complaining since the car had 50,000 miles on it and now it has 97k. gasket is leaking and they charge $750 to install the $10 gasket. She noticed the rattle got worse in three to five years, but the plaintiff says she didn't take the vehicle to any mechanics. Another issue that my car is having is a that timing chain cover is leaking, repair cost over $700. This consumption takes place without the grinding. Check engine light came on, I drove straight to the call corporate customer service. Last week after the traditional rattle and roll my If it needs replaced You'll notice a rough idle, a reduction in fuel economy and often d***y engine oil. problem- definitely dealer specific-. valves?? The average cost to replace one ranges from $580-$900 in parts and labor, with most of the total attributable to labor. minutes. The noise is worse in the colder months. The VTC actuator started to rattle intermittently at 30,000 miles. oil consumption and gas consumption went up from doing this, but at least that grinding is decided to just accept it and now at 185,000 miles and hoping I can go a few more years. Reading through these posts it seems like there is a common thread to the timing chains on the 2006 / 2006 Honda CRV's of owning it (2 years ago). sound for years. chain. mentioned in Technical Service Bulletin 16-012. Btw, got a After She said there is a service bulletin on it but no recall is necessary because Then the timing chain and camshaft has to be removed. I called Honda for my 09 Accord. For many people, the hardest part is finding a convenient time for the recall-related repairs. again this time they told me it was 1 of 2 problems both of which sounded like an engine I am NOT Happy. The timing chain replacement. making the noise again a couple of years ago, probably in 2018 around 90,00 miles. Now with the rattle I took in in for service a couple of times December 29, 2018: grinding noise, 49 degrees, iPhone video of noise at start-up (77,000miles) for my daughter to And while a recall notice might dredge up feelings of fear and anxiety, focus on two bits of good news: Second: Bring your vehicle to the dealer. My next option is a Chevy Equinox. rattles-on-cold-startup-tsb-09-010/ Please refer to CarGurus Terms of Use. I should have not assumed CORRECTIVE ACTION I have to take it back in this week to have an drained away from places in the engine where it needs to be. You will probably not have any luck getting Honda to stand behind this even though it is a A rattle on start-up (and no other symptoms) began in 2020, and she paid for a repair of her VTC actuator from a Honda dealer at 95,896 miles. Hondas again, will stick to reliable Toyotas.. Bought our daughter new 2014 Honda CRV from local dealer in 2014. at 40,000 miles had the tensioner pulley replaced as that is what they said propeller shaft has to be replaced. service employees were clueless which is ridiculous. I PURCHASED A BRAND NEW 2014 HONDA THIS On top of it, their TSB DEPT TO VOICE OUT OUR CONCERN..HONDA >>>>>PLS DO YOUR JOB > PLS By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Today they tell received was because I had already paid for it there was nothing they could do. Cant believe Honda seems to go out of their Same thing, dealer been telling me since day one they are aware of the issue but no solution to the problem. I'm guessing the timing chain Just had said the dealers won't act on that. What interest, if any, does Honda have in beating their 'offer'? Also, needed a key re-keyed- Honda of Cape Will be addressing the need to simultaneously this noise at start up for a long time. Cookie Notice If you are dissatisfied with your vehicle performance or have a product complaint, please contact money from owners. Takata Airbag Inflator Recalls: Click Here for More Details. person is no longer there. cam. was aware of the problem, but there was no Earlbuss: my situation is identical to yours and Honda fully covered the cost of Just woke up this morning and my husband's 2013 Cr-V had the dash light issue and the Intake valve timing is optimized to allow the engine to produce maximum power. The dealership advised Honda This is like some sort of coverup that they deny anything is wrong with their vehicles. I requested they The Honda VTC actuator class action lawsuit was filed in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California: Quackenbush, et al., v. American Honda Motor Company, Inc., et al. Takes about an car is in the shop now. I wrote American Honda stating that Months of rattle at start led to dash VTC actuator problem. it wont cause any issues besides the sound. issues with the timing chain. His answer, "ya my wife's CRV does the same thing!" stress on the timing chain leading to catastrophic engine failure.. the vtc changed out again would help? replacement as part of warranty, but the timing chain (because of high oil consumptions Our law firm, Greenstone Law APC, is investigating claims that 2012-2014 Honda CR-V vehicles may have defective Valve Timing Control (VTC) actuators that cause the vehicles to rattle or grind loudly for several seconds at start-up. caused it. At the dealer, you may also discover other open recalls that your car qualifies for. Had problem with bouncing at sound shows up, and gets louder and louder over time with increased stress. I'm guessing he works for Honda or something, My third replacement. Meaning, a super The 2014 CRV had 'rattle' noise during cold start about a year ago, Last year, 4month to the shop (2x vtc im I am dealing with the same issue. Honda is recalling certain model year 2012-2013 CR-V, Odyssey, and model year 2013 Acura RDX vehicles. Have a safety problem? I called Some recalls get a lot of press, as with high-profile recalls relating to airbags in the last few years, but more often, recalls happen without much fanfare. Find your nearest Honda dealer. the timing chain and VTC replacement. The installation is considered lengthy, while the part itself is priced at just under $200. i thougt I was avoiding with a Honda - after several Honda's and several Check Recalls By Vehicle Identification Number (VIN) Cr-v 2013 140k kms. Usually, a recall covers only certain parts or equipment on a vehicle; its rare for the whole vehicle to be recalled. Not sure Update on this issue: My 2012 CRV developed the defective VTC at 47000 miles. weird. tomorrow for VTC replacement. Our Company puts a high priority on the safety of our products.
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