So poor . There must be so many ex-pro riders out there who would give valuable commentary and insight into the races. Its the constant attempts at humour, then the giggling at his own in-jokes that has me reaching for the mute button. I've decided and bought a '21 Revolt which is nigh on identical in stack and reach to the Defy, only differences being a slacker front end and Well if you ever go to Chesterfield you will be called "youth" however old you are. That is exactly what has happened now. I had almost no idea what was going on or who was where. Ive just turned Catalunya on and hes already come out with I think he fell victim to his agent, so now hes at x team. It's their commentators or silence. 4th in last year's Giro d'Italia. Harmon's attitude can best be described as 'wogs begin at Calais'. 26/8/22: Stage 6 of the Vuelta, Kirby informs us (clearly based on nothing) that Mark Padun is 'a master' at descending in the wet (at that precise moment, Padun is descending very gingerly, taking pretty poor lines). You have a sound wall battle, where theyre shoving one way and were shoving the other while trying to sound calm and interesting on the commentary when actually what you want to do is knock someone out! COME ON WRITE TO EUROSPORT AND LETS GET HIM OFF ! I like Kelly just out of respect more than anything. On rest days we circulate to meet with everybody. According to the Telegraph, cyclists and joggers could be targeted as part ofa new Government initiative to work out who is leaving waste behind in countryside. But not today in the Vuelta or yesterday, and this is the first time I have heard Kirby commentating. Theres an awful lot of distractions to keep on top of, so if you happen to be looking at your notes when somebody has a moment and you dont see it, its not your fault., Kirby laughs. Before Kirby hits the airwaves, he touchesbase with Eurosport HQ in Paris,and then its time to take to the microphone. A mile from home, looked behind me, moved to the centre of the lane, stuck my arm out to turn right, got Editorial, general: info [at] road.cc . He spoils everyones enjoyment of the race with his silly so called jokes and rubbish talk. Cycling is a sport where there are no time limits and there are no constant action-packed sequences to speak about. How can someone who watches so much cycling know so little? Ive been up the Galibier. Eurosport's commentator Carlton Kirby has called hundreds of races throughout his career, both on-site and from the studio. Minutes later, Sean Kelly points out that Padun is 'not getting around the corners well not comfortable whatsoever on the descent'. All the news from the site and beyond as we start a new week. He threw the toys out of the pram because his head is scrambled by these defeats. Kittel did win stage four, but then Cavendish beat him again on stage six. No ! He's obsessed with what he thinks is going to happen, preferring baseless speculation to commentating on what is actually happening. UPDATE: New online Zoomcast show, July 16, click through for tickets. There are no points for each turn. What is the point? VN:What difference will people notice in this years Tour broadcast from a normal year, when you and your team are on-site? He came off the corner leading, it was a right hand to the finish in Villars-les-Dombes. Thus, the commentary that you hear wont come from the finish line, but rather from some television studio thousands of miles away. When youre on-site, even though youre there, youre still watching a monitor, Kirby says. I like Carlton too, not as much as Harmon, granted, but I've given up on him coming back. Please tell your friends: Ive read so many negative comments about Kirby that unlike most online petitions this one could work. You have your usual office equipment, coffee machine, and sandwich machine. CK:Its pretty bleak. They race ahead, dismount to get the tracking shots they need of the riders. But, Kirby has to do that, without fail. pic.twitter.com/fFcEf0AgHK, Volta a Catalunya (@VoltaCatalunya) March 25, 2019. For example, I know that Jakob Fuglsangs last name means bird song, which is a nice little thing. As you say, he doesn't shout unnecessarily either. Creativelyreplacing it witha Trek 1.2, Jack mostly rides this bikearound local cycle paths nowadays, but when he wants to get the racer out and be competitive hispreferred events are time trials, sportives, triathlons and pogo sticking - the latter being another long story. It's embarrassing now. VN:What do you talk about differently when youre in the studio? Brian Smith is very good and I feel for him having to listen to Kirby's dumbfounding comments. Exactly - and if you had any insight into professional riding and experience actually being a pro like Sean Kelly or Rob Hayles - you wouldnt struggle to find commentary. You also get a guy filming on the one side of a cyclist, who is then blocking the rider from turning at the right angle into a corner because a motorbike is blocking him. Create a personalized feed and bookmark your favorites. Strade Bianche 2023, March 4, one-day classic (men's & women's), 78th Omloop Het Nieuwsblad: February 25, 2023, UAE Tour 2023, February 20-26 (women's race February 9-12), O Gran Camio 2023, Spain, February 23-26, 49th Volta ao Algarve em Bicicleta (2.Pro) // February 15th - 19th 2023, Kuurne-Brussel-Kuurne 2023 February 26, 196 km (1.Pro). It's garnering quite a few sarcastic responses on Twitter Yep, I regularly cycle to MacDonalds, get a load of food, then cycle to the off license, get some beer, and then cycle to a lay by or car park and spread it around the place. Eurosport's lead cycling commentator Carlton Kirby presents a weekly guide to everything that's NOT happening in the sport . For god's sake grow up the man's just doing his job some of it good, some of it bad Is it my imagination or has there been more talk about commentators than cycling on here recently? Carlton Kirby pete54 Posts: 488 March 2014 edited October 2019 in Pro race For all those who can't stand Kirby's 'commentary' (must be everyone on Bikeradar? When all the commentators from different nationalities are inside the same studio room, it is no longer the same as before, remarks Kirby, in a monotonous tone. So, were close to the press guys who have spoken to the riders, and they wander up during the day, and weve been in place for two hours already, and we meet with you guys. At the moment I turn up to a large building that has been stripped of staff, and there are just 16 people in the building. One example of his commentary, from 11/3/21 Tirreno-Adriatico: Carlton Kirby: 'Yates is the heart and mind of this breakaway group'. For every Nicolas Roche or Steve Cummings great characters, totally locked down there are some savage bastards out there, and we love them all. The problem is that social media has allowed anyone and everyone to voice their opinion, regardless of their credibility. Whether they be dusty in the summer or wet in the winter, motorcycles are far too dangerous and get far too close to the bikes. For no reason. He also never tells you who the riders on screen are - and if he does, he's usually wrong. One thing Ive always been able to do is, I believe, see a very wide picture and a lot of different movement, and call those fast and accurately. but the bike was nowhere to be found!" I'm constantly berating or pointing out the danger of the motorcycle. The sights and sounds of the race and the attention of aptitude in an ample pressroom can renounce some valuable chunks for a commentator. 2023 Eurosport, a Warner Bros. The current situation has made things difficult, where previously they would head over to the channel to cover Tour De France, now they sit in their studios and practice social distancing and looking at monitors. But it was here he developed the ability to call a sprint. Controversial! Yes Harmon is okay and like I said - at least he does his homework on the teams and riders and hangs on every word uttered by Sean Kellyas though he is keen to learn the professional circuit. Wow, all this over a commentator, so Kirby sees a Quickstep rider and mistakes it for Voeckler - that's funny, it's engaging! It is amusing that explaining this is futile, he remarks. It is exciting being in a vast peloton, and the less experienced ones almost engage with it. Its quite nice at the Tour de France that we have a roadbook and a history book of everything were going through. Rob Hatch is apparently also good but he doesnt do very much that I've seen. And hes trying to improve them. We've asked Colnago for more details but they just shrugged their shoulders in reply. 4th in last year's Giro d'Italia. Antoine Demoitie tragically died after being hit by a motorbike. 2008present unless otherwise stated. Harmon LOVES cycling, cycling history, and even riders who don't speak English. Personally I think Harmon and Brian Smith are the best team. He suddenly realises how to beat Kittel, working out the formula to finish first. Fully agree Kirby is the most irritable commentator ever. And anybody who has watched one unfold on TV will recognise the frantic speed of the commentary as the race reaches its climax. The blokes an insult to all cyclists. It is all well having experience, but at some of the smaller races who are the guys riding these bikes? I just wish we had Liggett and Kelly doing the Grand Tours. When Cavendish won again on stage 14, Kittel just fell to pieces emotionally. Conversely, a Carlton Kirby Fan Club exists for those who love the cycling commentator. We met a young boy and young girl who recently lost their mum, and its really sad when you see that side of it. He said from the rider's perspective, motorbikes get far too close to the race. I agree listening to the mans over stressed enthusiasm really gets on my nerves. We dont want this man commentating. Well, Ill tell you: It makes your view of the race verifiable when youre there. I am having this problem too. I often moan about Kirby myself, but I don't. Yeah he does. Cue points, Kirby adds, are a bigger problem at Eurosport than with other networks, with producers calling for radio silence across the Eurosports various nationalbroadcasts to assist with the editing process. Thats because the Tours largest broadcasters are staying at home due to the COVID-19 pandemic, rather than broadcasting the race on-site in France. You also have picture breakdowns, sometimes audio breakdowns so weve got all that going on and we havent even got on to the racing yet!. Thanks to all who have signed. Its a whole other much more positive view of commentators as a whole. but the bike was nowhere to be found!" Eurosport commentator. You have got to be kidding! Where is the central body that has its own rules of discipline and rules of engagement that respect distance protocol and passing protocol under the race director? The rest is very monotonous and quite naturally the onus of filling that gap falls on the commentator. Tom Owen vents his fury after cycling blogger highlights verbal abuse on Box Hill, Geraint Thomas returns as domestique in experienced nine-man line-up, Summit finishes dominate opening fortnight with potentially pivotal time trial in final week, The best of the gear that's dropped into RCUK over the last couple of weeks, One carbon bike and two alloy models for 2016 'cross campaign from Chain Reaction Cycles' in-house bike brand. London live show preview! To know that, you simply have to do a Google Search and you will know why. Not much love for Eurosport commentator Carlton Kirby amongst the Team Sky ranks it seems Air pollution: London mother launches petition for second inquest into daughter''s death, Jason Kenny recounts last months near miss on BBC TV, Yoann Offredo's condition described as not life-threatening after GP de Denain crash, Telegraph article suggests "Littering cyclists and joggers could be to blame for countryside rubbish problem", Jeremy Vine's latest unpleasant encounter, 'Youths on pedal cycles' help Wednesfield Police catch thief, Best Cycling Website, BikeBiz Awards 2018, Tao Geoghehan Hart (picture copyright Simon Wilkinson, SWPix.com via Britishcycling.org_.uk), "Looks like shit. I think this is what is powering Marks mind at the moment. Eurosport will never get rid of Carlton Kirby, he receives so much fan-mail that it will far out way any negative feedback they get from him. The prodigious British riderTao Geoghegan Hart laid into Kirby's"outrageous claims", and Owain Doull also chipped in to describe Kirby as a "proper muppet". A piece of the petition has gained over 542 signatures demanding the removal of Carlton Kirby from Eurosports, citing Unnecessary Screaming, Terrible Jokes as one of the biggest downsides. e-bikes are very much the SUVs of the car world with every manufacturer seemingly keen to add at least one to their range to not miss out. It is amusing that explaining this is futile, he remarks. Well over a 1000 signatories on that petition now. "Commentating on cycling is not like snooker or tennis," Carlton Kirby tells Betway in a recent interview, one of the principal commentators for Eurosport's cycling coverage, who has served in the sport since 1996. You have to say who they are, where they are on the road, what colour theyre in and call the tactics and often all within 30-45 seconds of sheer hell and manic action. Next time you watch, ask yourself how many of his critiques are aimed against non-Anglophone riders. For me Kirby has the key ingredient I need from a commentator. You are calling the race as you see it on the screen. Theyre the best stages, and the most exciting ones, but often as a commentator the days you take the most pride in are actually the ones where absolutely sod all has happened! you can't have it on while doing other things and then return to the screen when it gets interesting because by the time Kirby has noticed many minutes will have passed. pic.twitter.com/TkvUUUeBXs. So, you have to ask yourself: What is different, and why is it worth it to actually go on-site? Eurosport have a lot of these, so theres a lot of conversation going on in your ear [between producers] and its quite a task trying to keep the flow of what you are saying, Kirby says. Being a commentator is all about improvisation and Kirby knows this quite well considering his huge range of experience. Cookies help us deliver our services. What blasphemy is this? Carlton's voice is familiar to fans of Motorsports and Cycling both on British Television and throughout the world. More often than not they slip into commentary which is at best nationalistic, and at worst xenophobic. To cycling fans, Carlton Kirbys voice has become synonymous with the sport, having become an integral part of British Eurosports racecoverage. Valverde gets it very, very wrong!" exclaimed . Simon Clarke, who should have won the 2016 Milan-San Remo is just one in a long, long line of things he invents from nowhere and then portrays as facts, banging on about them throughout a season. It is crazy. Like in any other sports, being a cycling commentator for a broadcast has its own perks & lows. All of this stuff adds to the vrit of the broadcast, and its stuff you cannot get in a studio in London. Carlton Kirby Kirby is the most marmite commentator there is. And somebody asked me, why dont you pronounce his name Foo-gel-sang instead ofFoolsong. Copyright 2015-2022 ProCyclingUK - All rights Reserved, 2024 Womens WorldTour Promotion/Relegation Standings, Commentating on cycling is not like snooker or tennis, says Carlton Kirby, Demi Vollering wins Strade Bianche from teammate Kopecky. There are already calls for a convening of UCI protocol committee so they can start to get some proper rules together about it. Jason Kenny has recounted to the BBC the near miss he and his infant son Albie encountered while out cycling last month. I make notes of the corners, pinch points, danger points, acceleration points, attack points all of those things.. Colnago is using social media to tease the arrival of its new E64 Performance, which well go out on a limb and guess is the companys attempt to tap into the rapidly growing e-bike market. Its windowless. It is all kinds of stuff. Kittel moves first into Cavendish, who follows the white line. Let us know what you think in the comments. Carlton Kirby As a Post Graduate Broadcast Journalist Carlton's Television career began with the BBC as a News and Sports Reporter. As we reported at the time, the six-time Olympic champion tweeted that he had been on a Sunday bike ride with his son when they were almost run over by a van driver who drove at us, then proceeded to angrily inform me it was my fault we nearly died.. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Tech, reviews: tech [at] road.cc That doesnt portend his job has not become a whole lot harder. If youve watched Eurosport cycling, you'll know. Continuing our discussion of 2020's cancelled/postponed races continues, Eurosport bon viveur Carlton Kirby discusses why riding up Swiss mountains is easier than riding up French mountains; villages accessible only by ladder; the world's highest lighthouse; 70s balladeer Gilbert O'Sullivan; human . You are as ill informed as Kirby. That is the way it appears. Thats one of the vagrancies of Eurosport.. I think you need to be a specialist to be a cycling commentator, yet he covers several sports on Eurosport. Would like to cancel eurosport but it's the only way to watch the classics (legitimately at least). Matt Stephens will be Eurosport's dedicated reporter on all Grand Tour coverage, bringing breaking news, updates, and interviews from inside the peloton. CK:Ive been doing bike races live and on-site since 1996. And his constant er, er, erms.. all the time were extremely irritating. ), there is a thread in the. One of the worlds most iconic cycling brands appears set to launch an e-bike. The most interesting people are the race commissars, and talking with them you get a lot of insight into who they are keeping an eye on. Carlton Kirby discusses the art of commentary, says thank you to those who enjoy listening to him. Youre at the finish line, essentially watching the TV albeit with extra screens.. You can also sometimes find your hotel is one or two hours away. CK:I think not many people will notice. All material FarrellyAtkinson (F-At) Limited, Unit 7b Green Park Station BA11JB. VeloNews: Whats the biggest difference for you when youre commentating on a race from back home, instead of attending the event? You take yourself to the studio, call up your procyclingstats.com, do your research online. It is really sad when you see the consequences of that. Its Kirbys cheat sheetfor every stage in the race, with details of the top finishers, jersey wearers, men in the breakaway and so on. Eurosports commentator Carlton Kirby has called hundreds of races throughout his career, both on-site and from the studio. We get to see our own output with our team interviewing the riders. Without wishing to be too disparaging to Mr. Kirby, I dont have Eurosport or the ability to watch cycling live, so I have to make do with highlights. I can get caught out, particularly if theres a crash in the last three kilometres, because that can animate the tempo even more and I have to keep something in reserve for the sprint finish. There are people who love what I do, and others who hate it, he admits. Proper all rounder. You get a sense of the weather a bright morning, going up this morning in a hail storm, and the hailstones are this big. He's ruining the sport I love - I avoid many races purely because he's the commentator. Log in or register to join the conversation. Twaddle. ), peppered with the repeated clichs (just see how many times he says 'puppy paws', joining the party or a dozen or so others). It is not general knowledge, and it should be. I think it is just individual race directors who decide who gets to ride these bikes. Carlton Kirby and His Approach On Commenting for GCN and Eurosport This Year: While cycling commentator Carlton Kirby and his teammates would normally head across the channel for the Tour de France, the recent situation suggests he will be covering the 2020 edition from the Eurosport studios in London. he's saving his energy. There are many great cycling commentators around at the moment, Im afraid Kirby isnt one of them. Teams have been announced for May's Tour de Yorkshire and the Asda Tour de Yorkshire Women's Race. To my mind, the motorised vehicles are getting far too close, a point I continue to pick up on commentary. Also, I would say many of his criticisms are unfair and/or cruel. You cant please everybody and as a commentator thats something you have to get to grips with. Coverage includes enhanced production with access to helicopter, on-board and superslomo cameras. . Once its out there youre done, so youll just have to forgive me if I make the odd gaffe. For mine, Carlton is the perfect commentator for the 'early shift' on long, flat grand tour stages. I tweeted quite a few comments which clearly annoyed him. To my mind, the motorcycles are the most dangerous because they have the least ability to stop. Some pros think so, plus more tech news from Shimano, Zwift, Le Col, Dahon, Fairlight + more, Pick-up truck driver crashes into group of cyclists, leaving two dead and 11 injured. The man, the myth, the chosen son. It is a free-for-all. When youre part of the race caravan, all you talk about is the race. There has to be some kind of distance applied and minimal standards of what is needed. But saves my life" German governments helmet advert sparks sexism row, - Sir Gary Verity steps down from Welcome to Yorkshire for health reasons after "errors of judgement" with his expenses, -Bristol taxi driver who cut up cyclist and braked in front of him has licence revoked (+ video), -Porn Pedallers to carry on riding despite being stripped of British Cycling affiliation. The Kirby CODEC will also be called into action as his followers on Twitter will know. Seriously. His cycling life began during his students days, when he cobbled togethera few hundred quidoff the back of a hard winter selling hats (long story) and bought hisfirst road bike - a Trek 1.1 that was quickly relegated to winter steed, before it was sadlypinched a few years later. Hes done it four times, and I think he might want to do it again on the Champs-lyses. So, our information can be slightly second-hand. Kirby continues to put his notes togetheronce hearrives at the commentary booth, reading the local press andKellys grasp of colloquial French coming into its own. Eurosport's lead cycling commentator's weekly guide to what's not going on in cycling during the lockdown. Thomas De Gendt launched a solo attack from the break with 60 kilometres remaining of todays opening stage of the Volta a Catalunya, covering 163 kilometres and starting and finishing in Calella and the Lotto-Soudal rider now finds himself with a lead of almost three minutes on his rivals. Eurosportreports that Kenny expanded on the incident on BBC One today, saying: Someone felt they had right of way and decided that gave them the right to kind of jump on the throttle and drive at us, which was a scary experience. Or at least diminished. As a small example, he started talking to Magnus Backstedt about tyre widths the other day ("weren't you the 27 mm guy?") When we drive to the finish well usually get on the course, because were badged up to do it, and then make notes. Discovery company. Even my partner, who doesn't watch cycling, could tell who had won. Carlton Kirby is a sports commentator who is most known for his work commentating on the Tour de France. All rights reserved. He's fine when it's all action but flounders when it's a longer stage. We need to get to tomorrows finish line, and sometimes that is a four-hour drive. Were literally opening up Sean Kellys cranium to learn the nuances of the sport, and he comes out and says which guy is going to go on and win the next day.
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